Gray stuff and Green stuff

[Admiral-Badruck]

What is the difference I know that Brown stuff is hard and can be cut and sanded Green never really gets solid so it can be cut... but what is Gray Stuff... is it the happy medium... what is white stuff.. heard of it but I have never even see it...

[me_in_japan]

Ive never even heard of white stuff, but I have green, brown, grey and milliput in my freezer right now. I use all of them for various things.

In order of hardness:

milliput is cheaper than the other options, and theres more in a pack. It is a bit fiddlier to work with, as it has no elasticity. It is also very sticky when first mixed, and will glop itself all over even clay shaper tools. Use lots of vaseline when working with milliput. Water does NOT work. It handles like clay (ie very maleable but doesnt stretch at all - it tears). It cures very hard indeed, and if you dropped a lump of it (dry) on the ground itd shatter into a bajillion wee bits.

One final thing about milliput is that it can be used to make milliput juice. Milliput is water soluble, so if you take a wee smoodge of the mixed putty and mix it with water you can get a kinda muddy slurry. Take the liquid part of this (should be kinda like milk) and paint it over an unprimed model that has little pits and dimples from the moulding process. You wouldnt do this on a models face, but on large, flat surfaces like ork muscles or eldar cloaks its v good. Let it dry, repeat if needed, and then sand down accessible bits like cloaks etc. Its very very good for smoothing out surfaces. Obviously, do this carefully, as if you screw up you just coverered your model in lumps of rock hard milliput...

brown stuff is hard and brittle. It sands well, but does not cut especially well, unless you are careful. It shatters much more easily than green, but much less easily than milliput. (this is milliput's biggest drawback.) Its pretty similar to green stuff before it cures in terms of stretch and sculptability.

grey stuff is what i use most. depending on how you mix the 2 parts, it can be soft and rubbery like green stuff or hard and brittle like brown stuff. It also handles and sculpts just a teensy bit more easily than either green or brown. Can be sanded, as long as you used enough hardener in the mix.

green stuff - sculpts well, and dries pretty hard. No good for sanding as it just tears and goes all messed up. Useful for making press-moulds, as it has enough flexibility when cured to be carefully peeled off master models.

The latter 3 (the "stuffs") can all be intermixed to combine their individual qualities. e.g. if you wanted grey stuff that was a bit harder, add some brown stuff to the mix.

Does that answer your question?

[Primarch]

Ive never even heard of white stuff, but I have green, brown, grey and milliput in my freezer right now. I use all of them for various things.

The Tamiya stuff I have is kind of white (slightly milky shade I guess).
It is tough to sculpt, but sands down and gives a very smooth finish so it would be good for armour plates etc.

[Admiral-Badruck]

good to hear I read the whole thing twice that is why I have not posted in a while.. I guess I will have to get some grey stuff...

[me_in_japan]

if i had to recommend 1, id say grey stuff. If i had to recommend 2, id say grey stuff and milliput. The milliput juice is v handy, and its sooooo much cheaper than grey stuff, so you can use it for big things like, e.g. nurgle tank slug treads.

[Admiral-Badruck]

That stuff is very cool to bad I have never seen it in any of the stores. Also didn't you say it was hard to use.

[me_in_japan]

depends what youre using it for. Milliput is a bit of a bugger to sculpt for fiddly things, but for gap filling its fine and dandy. It's got no stretch, so its no good for rivets, ropes or belts, but with the addition of water it smooths very well indeed, so is good for gap filling and robes n things.

The biggest advantage is when you cant do something all in one session. If you add a blob of GS to an already dry sculpt, its hard to smooth the new bit in so its a perfect transition. Milliput is much easier to do this with. This is important for eldar and tau, who need smooth, clean transitions.

And, it's cheap.

basically, if i was sculpting a face, a hand, a sword or runes, id use grey stuff.

if i was sculpting a basic structure, muscles, biggish tank bitz, or a big ol' slime daemon, id use milliput.

If i was sculpting techy bitz (wires, cogs, gubbinz) i wouldnt use putty at all. Id use guitar wire, plasticard, and bitz.

[Admiral-Badruck]

that still leaves me with where do you get Milliput?

[me_in_japan]

CMON usually have some in stock. failing that, in internet search should find it for you. I bought while I was back in the UK.

[Admiral-Badruck]

any links with tutorials on the stuff?