I'm in this camp, yeah - also I kind of think that (with the possible exception of forge world, whose rules for 8th edition are generally pretty terrible) balance is "OK" enough that taking a named character isn't an instant win button - it's true that, say, Cawl or Guilliman are undercosted to the point that they're obvious includes for their respective armies, but a) they're still beatable, and b) units that are under- or over-costed to the point that they're obvious includes or obvious trap choices are, and have been for for-ever, part and parcel of any game that uses points values, and there's more than a few of them besides just named characters in 40K 8th edition. The main issues people seem to have with Guilliman et. al. is more that you see one on every table at big tournaments than that they're so overpoweringly good that you can't win against an army using them - and our group is small enough that "anybody besides jus brings a primarch" is vanishingly unlikely anyway, at least until MiJ finishes painting Mortarion in 2035. Heck, even LoW seem manageable, dumb stuff like 3-Shadowsword spam notwithstanding - lots of people seem to play, and still not do very well in tournaments, with knights, for example.me_in_japan wrote:Agree about LoW, but re. Named characters - don’t the Ynnari require one of the triumvirate to be present in order to count as Ynnari? I’m not 100% sure, as I think it’s in Chapter Approved, but it’s worth considering that general rulings like this can impact some factions more than others (ie no Marneus Calgar? Fine, I’ll take a chapter master instead. No Yvraine/Visarch/Yncarne? Darn it, can’t use my whole army.)
I’m gonna play Stinkies, so it doesn’t affect me one way or the other and I realise it’s an edge case. I’m just pointing it out.
Which is a rambling way of saying that I think that if someone goes to the trouble of painting up a cool model, and is jazzed about using it at Nagoyahammer, we ought to let them, IMO.
(But, like MiJ, it's sort of a moot point for me, as no named characters exist for my army anyway. )