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Contaminated debris coming to Mie

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:08 pm
by Dungeon Lord
Hi guys,

Here is a link to a petition to stop debris from Miyagi and areas surrounding Fukushima being sent to Inabe (about 15mins from my place in Kuwana and right next to where the vegetables we eat are grown). Basically, they won't to dump the stuff in concrete containers.

This is really bad. Please give it to your wives to read and decide whether you want to sign or not. My family have signed it and so has Satoru. Actually he is involved in reducing the spread of contaminated debris, so he know quite a lot about it too.

Yoroshiku!

http://www.shomei.tv/project-1928.html

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:18 pm
by me_in_japan
before I sign up for anything like this, I'd like to know:

what's the alternative?

Not trying to be difficult - am genuinely curious.

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:36 pm
by Dungeon Lord
Not a problem mate. Ask away.

Keep everything up there. There is no point spreading it around and contaminating clean areas of land. There are other options for decontamination (I am not an expert so I don't pretend to know everything), but shifting the problem elsewhere is not a good idea.

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:02 pm
by Spevna
Dungeon Lord wrote:Not a problem mate. Ask away.

Keep everything up there. There is no point spreading it around and contaminating clean areas of land. There are other options for decontamination (I am not an expert so I don't pretend to know everything), but shifting the problem elsewhere is not a good idea.

I heard that it isn't being brought down here for storage but more for processing/burning so as to free up space to allow reconstruction/rebuilding to go ahead. I also heard that other prefectures are helping out in the same way.

This is just what I have heard and have not read it seen anything about it myself so take with as much salt as needed.

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:56 am
by Dungeon Lord
That may also be true, but at least some of the stuff coming will be stored (burnt or not) because the concrete company in Tokyo has a branch in Inabe. If it is burnt before being sent here it will have been mixed in with normal rubbish, but you can gaurantee that it is contaminated to some degree. It will be under the allowed levels of cesium, but nobody knows the effects it will have on children with fast cells division.

If anyone is interested they can have a look at Fairewinds.com for impartial information and the direction the radiation blew during March last year.

Basically it is a risk that we should not have to bear.

Osaka and northern Kyushuu have started accepting and burning. This is actually a bad thing as the radiation becomes air born and is breathed in by people.

Not trying to scare manger here. Just trying to raise awareness. I too don't have all the info first hand but you can also gaurantee that the news reports are NOT telling the whole extent.

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:02 am
by me_in_japan
you can also gaurantee that the news reports are telling the whole extent.
If there's one thing I hold to be an unassailable rule of Truth, it's that the news reports exactly what the media thinks the public will find most interesting/attention grabbing. The media do not report the news impartially - they sell newspapers and TV shows. The scarier they can make things sound, the better for them. I do not trust the media as far as I can throw them.

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:09 am
by Admiral-Badruck
Actually it is a mix of what sells and what Capitalist want you to know.

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:39 am
by Dungeon Lord
me_in_japan wrote:
you can also gaurantee that the news reports are telling the whole extent.
If there's one thing I hold to be an unassailable rule of Truth, it's that the news reports exactly what the media thinks the public will find most interesting/attention grabbing. The media do not report the news impartially - they sell newspapers and TV shows. The scarier they can make things sound, the better for them. I do not trust the media as far as I can throw them.
Oops. Typo. Sorry. "are telling the whole extent" changed to "are NOT telling the whole extent."

I agree. But in this case they are down playing it and the government people are in bed with the pro-nuclear power groups and anyone against gets snubbed.

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:46 am
by me_in_japan
aaaaah. I see. One o them mission-critical typos there. Meh, they happen from time to time. No worries :D Apologies for going on a mini-"I hate the press" rant.

as for them being in bed with The Man, yeah - twould certainly appear to be so. I don't think environmental groups are much better, mind you. They have their agendas, too. Don't trust nobody, that's what I say. They're all out to get you. All of em. Even me :twisted: :P

Re: Contaminate debris coming to Mie

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:49 am
by Dungeon Lord
I noticed I often omit "not" and I have yet to succeed in eradicating it completely. :oops: