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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Miggy Smallz » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:34 pm

Okay, the God-Emperor of Mankind made me LOL. However, I'm still thinking Kefka can steamroll everyone else on this list, Palpatine included.
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Spevna » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:26 pm

Miggy Smallz wrote:Okay, the God-Emperor of Mankind made me LOL. However, I'm still thinking Kefka can steamroll everyone else on this list, Palpatine included.
No idea who this Kefka bloke is but he looks like a cross between a mime, Boy George, and a gay Mardi Gras dancer. None of those three are ticking any boxes for me.

If I were a lone in a room with him, I would keep my back to the wall. If I saw him with a tube of KY Jelly in his hand, I would run for the hills. I would be more scared of him trying to buTTer me than take over the galaxy.
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Colonel Voss » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:29 pm

Before the start of the game, Kefka serves as Emperor Gestahl's Court Mage and was the first "volunteer" for an experimental Magitek infusion, under the supervision of Cid. The process was still flawed, and although Kefka gained the ability to wield magic, it warped his mind and made him into the nihilistic psychopath he is during the course of the game.[4] Kefka forces a Slave Crown upon Terra and uses her to lead an attack on Narshe to claim the frozen Esper there. When she escapes Imperial control, he pursues Terra to the kingdom of Figaro, setting the castle ablaze as she, Locke and King Edgar flee.

During a siege on the kingdom of Doma, Kefka grows impatient with General Leo and poisons Doma's drinking water, resulting in mass casualties and a swift victory for the Empire. Citing the poisoning of Doma, Gestahl eventually has Kefka imprisoned, but a plot twist later reveals this to be a ploy to gain the Returners' trust. Kefka later goes to Thamasa to kill the Espers congregated there.[5] When General Leo tries to intervene, Kefka kills him. Using the power of the Espers, Kefka helps Gestahl raise the Floating Continent holding the Warring Triad, statues that were once the three gods of magic. When the party confront Kefka and Gestahl on the continent, Gestahl freezes them (except Celes), ordering her to kill her friends to show her loyalty to the Empire, but she in turn stabs Kefka instead. Enraged, Kefka knocks her aside and orders the statues to strike down Gestahl, unceremoniously booting him off the Floating Continent to his death. He then moves the Statues from their delicate balance, unleashing enough raw magical energy to reshape the face of the planet and bringing about the second act of the game.[6] Imbued with the power of the statues, Kefka becomes the god of the ruined world he created, using the statues to forge a massive tower of random debris to serve as his headquarters. Kefka smites the millions who refuse to worship him with his "Light of Judgment", a beam of incinerating light capable of cutting fissures into the planet's surface.

At the game's conclusion, confronted by the protagonists, Kefka finally reveals his nihilistic motivations, explaining that all life is meaningless, and that the lives of mortal humans are purposeless. Thus, he proclaims that his new goal is to eradicate everything.[7] The party reject his claims, citing examples of meaning in their personal lives, causing Kefka to go berserk.[8] He turns his Light of Judgment on the World of Ruin one last time as the party attacks him, and reveals himself as a tower of flesh and effigies of himself the top of which is Kefka impaled whilst sitting in a throne who then assumes a robed "god"-form with six wings. He is ultimately dispatched, making the power of magic vanish.
It's a poor description of what he does. You have to see him in action to really understand. He's been voted the 8th best villian of all time on G4.
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Spevna » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:44 pm

Colonel Voss wrote:
Before the start of the game, Kefka serves as Emperor Gestahl's Court Mage and was the first "volunteer" for an experimental Magitek infusion, under the supervision of Cid. The process was still flawed, and although Kefka gained the ability to wield magic, it warped his mind and made him into the nihilistic psychopath he is during the course of the game.[4] Kefka forces a Slave Crown upon Terra and uses her to lead an attack on Narshe to claim the frozen Esper there. When she escapes Imperial control, he pursues Terra to the kingdom of Figaro, setting the castle ablaze as she, Locke and King Edgar flee.

During a siege on the kingdom of Doma, Kefka grows impatient with General Leo and poisons Doma's drinking water, resulting in mass casualties and a swift victory for the Empire. Citing the poisoning of Doma, Gestahl eventually has Kefka imprisoned, but a plot twist later reveals this to be a ploy to gain the Returners' trust. Kefka later goes to Thamasa to kill the Espers congregated there.[5] When General Leo tries to intervene, Kefka kills him. Using the power of the Espers, Kefka helps Gestahl raise the Floating Continent holding the Warring Triad, statues that were once the three gods of magic. When the party confront Kefka and Gestahl on the continent, Gestahl freezes them (except Celes), ordering her to kill her friends to show her loyalty to the Empire, but she in turn stabs Kefka instead. Enraged, Kefka knocks her aside and orders the statues to strike down Gestahl, unceremoniously booting him off the Floating Continent to his death. He then moves the Statues from their delicate balance, unleashing enough raw magical energy to reshape the face of the planet and bringing about the second act of the game.[6] Imbued with the power of the statues, Kefka becomes the god of the ruined world he created, using the statues to forge a massive tower of random debris to serve as his headquarters. Kefka smites the millions who refuse to worship him with his "Light of Judgment", a beam of incinerating light capable of cutting fissures into the planet's surface.

At the game's conclusion, confronted by the protagonists, Kefka finally reveals his nihilistic motivations, explaining that all life is meaningless, and that the lives of mortal humans are purposeless. Thus, he proclaims that his new goal is to eradicate everything.[7] The party reject his claims, citing examples of meaning in their personal lives, causing Kefka to go berserk.[8] He turns his Light of Judgment on the World of Ruin one last time as the party attacks him, and reveals himself as a tower of flesh and effigies of himself the top of which is Kefka impaled whilst sitting in a throne who then assumes a robed "god"-form with six wings. He is ultimately dispatched, making the power of magic vanish.
It's a poor description of what he does. You have to see him in action to really understand. He's been voted the 8th best villian of all time on G4.

So, there are 7 people much better than him? Righ, gotcha. Just to clarify, out of the 8 baddest of the bad he is ...... hold on.......just doing the math.....8th? OK, I am going to start shaking in my wellies........now!
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Miggy Smallz » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:33 am

Spevna wrote: So, there are 7 people much better than him? Righ, gotcha. Just to clarify, out of the 8 baddest of the bad he is ...... hold on.......just doing the math.....8th? OK, I am going to start shaking in my wellies........now!

...said the ant to the god.

By sheer votes alone (two), Kefka just won this discussion. :lol:
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Post by Colonel Voss » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:54 am

And space marines would be voted the coolest army in 40k, doesn't mean that it is true. Heck, for a video game character to get on the list really speak volumes in and of itself.

And as Miggy has pointed out, it's two votes to a bunch oners for Kefka.
G4's Filter named Kefka one of the top ten villains of all time as selected by viewers, placing number eight on the list.[10] In a "Reader's Choice" edition of GameSpot's "Top Ten Video Game Villains", Kefka placed first, stating "Kefka topped many of your lists, as the villain who gave Sephiroth a run for his money in the status department. You love and hate Kefka, but you surely think he's about as vile and evil as evil gets."[11] In a similar article the boss battle against Kefka was voted by readers as one of the ten best in video games; GameSpot's staff noted "Kefka is one of the two bosses that won through the write-in ballot, meaning he wasn't on our main list of nominees. That means he's a serious favorite."[12] GameDaily listed Kefka as one of the top 25 craziest video game villains of all time, citing his cackle and egotism amongst other things for his insanity.[13]

Nintendo Power named Kefka the best villain to appear on Nintendo consoles in 1994, ranking higher than Donkey Kong Country's King K. Rool and Marvel Comics' Carnage.[14] They again featured him in their January 2010 issue, ranking him as their third favourite Nintendo villain.[15] He also was ranked 3rd place in the "Our Favorite Villains," section of their "250 Reasons to Love Nintendo," article. He was described as "An insane, remorseless clown with godlike powers who wants to destroy everyone and everything (and comes frighteningly close to achieving his goal), Kefka is downright evil." UGO.com named him third in their "Top 25 Japanese RPG Characters" article, stating "Insane, nihilistic, and cruel, Kefka isn't a reserved mystery like other Final Fantasy villains - rather, he's in-your-face at all times, doing dirty deeds just to say he did them." [16] IGN ranked him sixth on their list of the "Top 25" Final Fantasy characters of all time, noting that several factors, such as his dialogue and appearance, contributed to his memorability as a character;[17] in a "Reader's Choice" edition of the article he placed eighth, with similar comments.[18] GamePro ranked him 33rd on the top 47 most diabolical video game villains of all time, citing both his "genocide" and his enslavement of Terra.[19] GamesRadar ranked him the most "outrageous camp bad guys", stating that when compared to Kefka, Final Fantasy VII antagonist Sephiroth seems as interesting as a dead accountant painted brown. They also compared him to Batman antagonist the Joker, praising him for both his villainous ambition and his laugh.[20]

Konami video game developer Tomm Hulett described Kefka as a pure villain, stating "Unlike most Japanese stories, Kefka did not have shades of gray. He didn't have a tragic past that turned him into a sadistic clown that you felt sorry for him over. He didn't have some greater purpose that he lost sight of. Yet, at the same time, he wasn't "evil for evil's sake." There was something twisted and nasty inside him that MADE him that way... and you could feel it... but you also knew there wasn't any good in there."[21] In a review of Final Fantasy VI Advance, IGN stated "it's the game's maniacal nihilist Kefka that really stands out. The most evil and destructive villain in the entire Final Fantasy franchise, Kefka's brutality and ruthlessness is unmatched and he has to be seen to be believed."[22] CNet in their own review described him as "the unrivaled star of the show...he's the kind of villain that you will love to hate", comparing him to Jack Nicholson's portrayal of The Joker and calling his laugh one of the greatest sound effects in any video game.[23]

Now that is truly something to think about. This guys laugh is epic in and of itself.

An editor on Gamespy declared that Kefka, quite possibly, is the greatest video game villain of all time.[24]

A popular gaming website, Gamespot, chose Kefka as a contestant of being the greatest video game villain ever.

In Game Informer's Building the Ultimate RPG article of one issue, they picked Kefka over Sephiroth as the primary antagonist. GamesRadar named him in their article about top antagonists of the Final Fantasy series, citing his nihilistic use of violence, comparing him to the Joker of Batman fame.[25]
I really do think that if this guy was in a franchise like Star Wars, then this guy would win hands down the best villian.
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Mike the Pike » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:56 am

It's a discussion not a poll, so there is no such thing as votes. :D

If there were, we would be using the electoral college system. I would be the equivalent of California, Texas and NY combined, while MS and Voss would be the equivalent of Rhode Island. Spevna would be Canada. :P

You still haven't countered the point that this clown Kofta or whatever only ever controlled/destroyed one world, while my main Palps conquered the entire galaxy. :twisted:
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Spevna » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:02 am

Miggy Smallz wrote:
Spevna wrote: So, there are 7 people much better than him? Righ, gotcha. Just to clarify, out of the 8 baddest of the bad he is ...... hold on.......just doing the math.....8th? OK, I am going to start shaking in my wellies........now!

...said the ant to the god.

By sheer votes alone (two), Kefka just won this discussion. :lol:

When was Colonel Voss elevated to the status of God? Must've missed that memo.
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Colonel Voss » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:19 am

Mike the Pike wrote:
You still haven't countered the point that this clown Kofta or whatever only ever controlled/destroyed one world, while my main Palps conquered the entire galaxy. :twisted:
Differences in plot size. FFVI is limited to one world, Star Wars one galaxy.

yep, all his machinations and he conquered a galaxy, was killed by his faithful side kick and never could electrocute anyone enough to kill them. *YAWN*

If Kefka has taken over the senate, the galaxy would have burned in destruction and mayhem. Obi wan and Yoda would have had a permanent headache of all the from the disturbances in the force. And he'd done it with style that some stiff robe wearer never could have done.
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Re: Best &Worst SF/Fantasy/Action Villains (in terms of succ

Post by Colonel Voss » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:20 am

Spevna wrote:
Miggy Smallz wrote:
Spevna wrote: So, there are 7 people much better than him? Righ, gotcha. Just to clarify, out of the 8 baddest of the bad he is ...... hold on.......just doing the math.....8th? OK, I am going to start shaking in my wellies........now!

...said the ant to the god.

By sheer votes alone (two), Kefka just won this discussion. :lol:

When was Colonel Voss elevated to the status of God? Must've missed that memo.
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