Spevna wrote:job wrote:Spevna wrote:
Nope, not rubbish. It is fact. It is a fact that GW has said the game is not balanced. It is a fact that they have said they have not written it for tournament play.
Of course they could write a more balanced game, but they don't want to.
GW and you can say what you like, skippy, but it is still 'rubbish'. You say anything, but if it's silly and worthless, it's also "rubbish".
If some essence of balance and wasn't thought why would there be tournaments, constant attention to play testing before releases and, as TOD cleverly pointed out, points values.
The gaming communities if been part of have almost always demanded balance, most particularly from GW fans who tend to be the most competitive bunch in my experience.
GW really looks like their just making an excuse for not living up to fan demands.
Of course you need, as you put it, an essence of balance to add a basic framework and structure to choosing forces. A game with an essence of balance, and a balanced game are not one and the same. The PP games are balanced (from what I have heard). WH40K can be balanced IF the people playing sit down together and and make their lists with that intention.
40K in it's original incarnation was basically a tabletop skirmish/rpg game. Balance was not even an afterthought. The GM would sort out the forces involved and run the players through the scenario. That mentality still influences the game to a certain extent I think.
Most of the tournaments are not official GW events I believe ( I could be wrong here). GW has said that they never wrote the rules to be for tournaments. If players try to play a 40K tourny and then complain about a lack of balance, they should call for a waaawaaawaaaaambulance.
If there was the constant attention to playtesting that you talk of, surely the issues of balance would be obvious. And if they are obvious, GW must be choosing not to act on them. And the reason for that lack of action is that balance is not, has never been, and probably never will be something that GW bothers themselves with.
WH40K is a casual game designed to be played with beer, pretzels, friends and for fun. This is the reason I don't attend tournaments.
If players are getting into a game that was never designed to be balanced, and is well know for not being balanced,they shouldn't proceed to then complain about said lack of balance.
It would be like buying a pair of white sneakers with velcro straps and then complaining that they should be black, and have laces, and be more formal, and made of shiny leather. If you want shoes, buy shoes. If you want sneakers, buy sneakers.
And don't call me 'skippy'.
