Blood Bowl

[Spevna]

I would also like to thank MIJ for his continued support of folks on this sight as well as his open mindedness to new ideas and positive attitude to gaming in general.

Sarcasm generally works better when your sarcastic comments don't have any spelling mistakes.

the point of leagues it to enjoy the leveling up but if folks just want pick up games I am not keen to even play. Not keen because BB is a game that plays best when there is something to gain.

You don't need to play in a league to level up your team. You do get SPPs for every game you play. Sure you will level up faster in a league but pick up games will still enable you to improve your team. I have never taken part in a tabletop BB league and I still have rosters with players that have leveled up.

As someone has already mentioned, awarding 1 SPP for KOs does a good job of speeding up the process.

Having set leagues with scheduled games on specific days generally starts well but soon peters out as real life tends to get in the way and then people have trouble making games up.

And informal league where people play if and when they get the time is the way forward.

[me_in_japan]

what spev said

agreed. The response I wrote on page 6 then deleted basically said the same as Spev's post, only snarkier. Probly as well I deleted it, really.

[Grim Ironjaw]

Having set leagues with scheduled games on specific days generally starts well but soon peters out as real life tends to get in the way and then people have trouble making games up.

And informal league where people play if and when they get the time is the way forward.

I completely agree.

As much as I enjoyed the online league with a set schedule and no dodging teams, for tabletop it only feels practical to do that in a 1-2 day tournament.

[ashmie]

I'm up for playing league games if someone else is willing to organise an afternoon or a day of it. To be honest I'm happy playing it the same way I play Mordheim. As and when I can and upgrading the team/warband as I go.
As long as they get 4 games a year I'm happy. What I wouldn't want to happen was what happened to 40k with me. It got so serious and competative that all the fun and excitement was taken out of it. I think it's good now Nagoyahammer has free play as well as tournament options. Tournaments and competitions are fun if they are light hearted but if my opponent is wanting to win at all costs it can be a bit of a stress for me.
Oh let me tell you about stress Just kidding.

[Admiral-Badruck]

hands up if you played in a league.

no...stop posting negatively about a proper league if you do not want to play in on then don't play... you are all free to play all the games you like with your friends if you do not like proper leagues .

yes.. was the league you played in fun?

no... go back to the first no answer.

Yes... what are you arguing with me for.
I really loved the on-line league we played a few yeas back. and the league I played in in the USA was the most fun I had playing GW games.

I get that you folks in Mie do not think you can make it to the book store twice a month to play blood Bowl... but if folks are willing to come and play board games why cant we play in a league. leagues are really fun. I am not saying you have to before it just do not go against it.

[Spevna]

hands up if you played in a league.

no...stop posting negatively about a proper league if you do not want to play in on then don't play... you are all free to play all the games you like with your friends if you do not like proper leagues .

yes.. was the league you played in fun?

no... go back to the first no answer.

Yes... what are you arguing with me for.
I really loved the on-line league we played a few yeas back. and the league I played in in the USA was the most fun I had playing GW games.

I get that you folks in Mie do not think you can make it to the book store twice a month to play blood Bowl... but if folks are willing to come and play board games why cant we play in a league. leagues are really fun. I am not saying you have to before it just do not go against it.

I managed to navigate the scarred and crater marked grammar/punctuation/spelling battlefield that is an Admiral post and came up with a reply.

There are a few people who seem interested but have yet to play. Me, MiJ, and Grim on the other hand have all have played lots of BB experience. I think that our opinions merit a look at least. And sure, we may not have much, if any, league experience but then again neither do you.

Using the online league as an example is pointless. It is easy to get games done when you don't have to actually leave your living room. And even then it is tough to get all the games in, just ask Grim about his experience as commish.

Nobody is being negative about a league. Those of us that are the supposed 'naysayers' are actually trying to suggest a league format that we think will work better.

To be honest I'm happy playing it the same way I play Mordheim. As and when I can and upgrading the team/warband as I go.
As long as they get 4 games a year I'm happy.

Having set leagues with scheduled games on specific days generally starts well but soon peters out as real life tends to get in the way and then people have trouble making games up.

And informal league where people play if and when they get the time is the way forward.

agreed

I completely agree.

As much as I enjoyed the online league with a set schedule and no dodging teams, for tabletop it only feels practical to do that in a 1-2 day tournament.

See, everyone is in fact supporting a league, just not the format that you want. The joy of the informal league is that if people rock up regularly and play then it works as a formal league. If people come when they can, it works as an informal league. Either way, it will work.

And in reference to this from you;

if you do not want to play in on then don't play... you are all free to play all the games you like with your friends if you do not like proper leagues .

What you really mean is;

stop posting negatively about a the league format that I suggest

Dude, chill.No need to get your panties in a bunch just because a few people might not agree with you. You gonna get this butt hurt when people disagree with you as kommish?

[jus]

Question:

We know already who isn't a fan of the regular on going league prospect. But out of interest, who actually does have the time, commitment and willingness to participate in a monthly/bi-monthly league?

My first intro to blood bowl was the online browser version, where I was told to "click here", "click there," then "BLITZ BLITZ BLiTz," none of which were explained at all. Not the most compelling introduction to a game, but I'd give the game another go since it's everyone's and their grandma's favorite game evaaar.

[Primarch]

Personally, I may play a few games of Blood Bowl if I have time, but I really cant make it to Mondo books on a friday evening so even if there is a league I wont be playing in it.

I think that the idea of a league has it's merits and it's drawbacks. For people in the league it guarantees them a set number of games and that they wont end up playing the same opponent week in, week out. At the same time, it means that everyone has to commit to playing BB at the expense of other games if they dont want to get left behind or hold back the players who are waiting for them. If all the folks at the Mondo events are cool with BB being their primary game then go for it.

For people who cant make it to the events, being able to play as and when the opportunity arises is ideal. Having the freedom to say "I will play BB Today!" is good if you have a limited amount of free time and meet opponents irregularly. Of course, your team wont level up as quickly if you dont play games every 2 weeks, but that is something you've probably already come to accept with other games anyway.

Looking at it from that point of view, I dont see why you cant have a Mondo Books League for players at Mondo and a 'play when you can' approach for the players like myself who dont play at Mondo. So Badruck can be a Kommisionah and M_i_J, Spev and myself can do our own thing at our own pace, earning SPPs when we can and playing if we are able to.

The only time I can see any issues arising from this situation is when a Leaguer wants to play a Free-timer. For the free-timer, there is no problem because it would be just like every other game where you go up against a team that may be higher or lower ranked than your own (probably higher since they should have played more games). For the leaguer, the Kommish needs to work out how that will affect their league standing if they are getting in some extra-curricular games on the side.

In summary:
To M_i_J, Spev and everyone else who doesnt plan to go to Mondo (and this includes myself), let's just let the Mondo guys get on with it as it wont affect us.
To all the guys going to Mondo who want a league, just get on with it.
To all the guys going to Mondo who DONT want a league, speak up now.
To the Kommish, figure out how Leaguers playing Free-timers will impact the league.

[Grim Ironjaw]

The only time I can see any issues arising from this situation is when a Leaguer wants to play a Free-timer. For the free-timer, there is no problem because it would be just like every other game where you go up against a team that may be higher or lower ranked than your own (probably higher since they should have played more games). For the leaguer, the Kommish needs to work out how that will affect their league standing if they are getting in some extra-curricular games on the side.

Just to add, if the league is strict about its teams not getting any tail on the side, it IS possible to have multiple team rosters using the same set of miniatures--just devote one to league and another to free for alls.

No need to buy a separate set of miniatures.

(you vets already know this but some newbies may not)

[me_in_japan]

their own opinions

Oh that thrice accursed internet and its lack of inflection. I can see this whole conversation offending people, if it hasnt already.

Badruck, Spev, Prim, Me, Grim, Jus, etc etc. We all know each other, we're all mates, and nobody dislikes anybody else. Yes, in this case we maybe want different things, but that doesnt mean any of us are wrong. I think Prim and Grim's last two posts sum up a good solution. Those who want an organised, scheduled league should go for it, and I wish em the best of luck. Those who don't can play as they like. When the two meet, it can be worked out on the day. Good luck to us all, enjoy the booze (except for those who dont, of course) and may nuffle bless your dice