Questions about making a chapter

[Primarch]

A chapter master is a captain in nearly every way. The only differences are:
Chapter master costs more
Chapter master gets the "orbital strike special rule"
Chapter master may take an honour guard instead of a command squad
Chapter master doesnt make bike units troop choices

For the Blood Angels, their command squad and honour guard are the same unit. BA captains dont make bike units troop choices. There is no option for an Orbital Strike in the BA dex.

SO....Take a captain, call him a chapter master. You dont need to use the Space Marine dex and you avoid any rule problems.

[Admiral-Badruck]

Or just make up your own rules and post them in the Home Brew section for MIJ and I to argue about...

[me_in_japan]

Moi? argue?

[Seb]

Thanks for all your ideas. There sure are a lot of choices..

I don't know why but I don't really like the BA captain, at least not in the position as a chapter master.
I have been comparing and looking at the both codexes and it seems that the BA captain has 1 point less in WS, but I don't know if thats a printing miss or what.. But it is a fact that he can't use artificier armour or relic blade wargear options. Don't know if I will ever choose them but you know, I kind like having the option to.

I'll go with vanilla flavour, it means a lot of possibilies for customisation and I'll be able to try a lot of approaches.

[Primarch]

Looking over the books, most characters, including BA captains have WS6 regardless of captain or chapter master. As I said, their statistics are the same. Blood Angels dont get Relic Blades for anyone, so if you want to use one then the vanilla codex is best.
If you're taking a Relic Blade then you should either take a Storm Shield or a combi-melta. The shield improves your saving throw and the combi-melta lets you kill a tank if you are lucky.

[me_in_japan]

relic blade and storm shield has a lot of possibilities for some rather funky conversions...

[Seb]

Isn't relic blade 2-handed? ok to use shield or pistol?

[Admiral-Badruck]

you can use a shield but not a pistol... I know it seams a bit strange but those are the rules... they do not always make sense..

[Seb]

Prim,I have a few questions about the Blood Angels if you don't mind. (Or anyone else that can answer)

I saw that you used the book codex when we played last sunday, is that the 4th or the 5th edition?
Because I have a pdf version of the 5th BA codex, released from white dwarf and just wondering which is to use?

The thing about the pdf BA codex is that it contains a lot of things that I don't understand, for example in the wargear section it says that Storm shields give a 4+ invulnerable save in close combat, which means that there wouldn't be any point in picking a storm shield for example a company chapter who already gets 4+ inv save from his iron halo. In the SM codex it says that a storm shield gives you 3+ invulnerable save, saying nothing about close
combat.

Other than that the pdf codex says that a BA company captain has 5 in WS, where a captain in the SM codex has 6.

I think there are more differences between the 2 codexes but I haven't found anything else atm.

I also want to ask about the Feel no Pain rule, last time we played I think Jus got this one for his BA. But when I looked at the pdf codex it only gives this rule to Mephisto and the Death Squad, what unit gets this rule?

Thank you!

[Admiral-Badruck]

The 5th Ed PDF is old the new codex came out this year. That is the new BAngels dex.