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Malifaux (3rd ed) - First Games Review and Discussion

Post by Primarch » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:37 am

While I technically played a game back when 3rd ed first dropped, it is only recently that I have been able to play several games (or parts thereof) in a short-ish period of time.

First off, let me say that Malifaux is still my favourite game in terms of game mechanics and rules. While I love my historical games for a variety of reasons and I enjoy the fluff of the 40K universe, Malifaux is a fantastic system that checks all the right boxes for me. It's also a lot of fun in terms of model variety. On the tables today we had Stompy Robots, Berserker Pigs, Undead Call-girls, Vicious Mercenaries, Half-blooded Mutants and Insane Psychotherapists. :lol: I don't think many other games pack in that much variety.

Personally, I am still trying to wrap my head around 3rd edition rules and forget the various 1st and 2nd edition relics that are still stuck in my noggin. So, even though I thought I knew the rules, I had to keep checking and looking things up to be 100% sure. This slowed things down a little, but I think I did okay overall.

In terms of time, it does seem that 50-stone games take a while. Until everyone has the rules down and knows exactly what they are doing with every model in their crew, I don't think 50 stones is a viable number for games days if you expect to get 2 games in. From past experience, I doubt that we will ever get to the stage where every player is fully up to speed with the game. We all play too many other systems and get games in too infrequently to reach that level I think. 35 stones seems like a much more realistic option for a 2 games/1 day scenario. This does lead to Masters having a larger influence on the game as they represent a large percentage of both crews. This works for both players of course, so shouldn't be a big problem. The smaller game does mean that some figures will be left behind as players can't afford all the options they may want to take in a 50-stone game.

One thing that I did think of was to have the strategy and schemes for the day worked out ahead of time. When games are being lined up, we could generate deployment options, schemes and strategies beforehand. Players could declare which faction/crew they were bringing that day, and then at the event we could simply flip for attacker/defender and start directly from the deploy crews step? We could either do one set of flips for all the games on a given day (so if you play 2 games, it's the same set of options twice), a set for the a.m. and for the p.m. or even just unique sets for every game you line up. What do people think?

As for crews, the official method is that you declare faction, set up the rest of the game and only announce crews when everything is locked in. For players with multiple crews per faction, this is fine, but for players with only 1 crew, it puts them at a disadvantage as everyone knows what they will be bringing. For the time being, perhaps it would be best if everyone declared Keyword/Master in the declare Faction step, so that we are all on an even footing?

Anyway, I love this game and I'm eager to get a LOT more games in. :D
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Re: Malifaux (3rd ed) - First Games Review and Discussion

Post by Primarch » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:15 am

This discussion came up in the games day thread:
Underdweller wrote: Balloonacorn, I think I found the answer to my question about markers. In the rules for the Corrupted Idols strategy, surprisingly enough:

"Drop the Strategy Marker anywhere within X" of its current location, not into base contact with a model or Impassable Terrain, where X is equal to the amount of damage suffered by the Interacting model"

So, I would not have been pushing it through the wall, but assuming 3" was enough so that it was on the far side of the wall, I could have dropped it outside. If not, it was basically immovable.
I've looked through the FAQ's and core rules about this. The Underdweller is correct in that the marker is not pushed through the wall. It is removed from the table and put back onto the table in its new position.

A few other points relating to the Corrupted Idols strategy. In the Season Zero (each year Wyrd has produces a set of tournament rules and an FAQ, Season Zero was released before the first tournament season, but after the core rules as a patch) rules, the strategy is altered slightly so that markers are created on the centre point, the corners or HALFWAY between the two, not 8" from the corner as the core rules state.
In both the Season One and Season Two FAQ's, models can no longer reduce themselves to 0 wounds to move a marker.
In the same FAQ's, if a model is being controlled by another model (e.g. an Obey or similar ability), the controlling model takes the damage instead.


And something for Grantholomeu. Piglets' Mindless ability that makes them count as having activated when they are summoned also prevents your opponent getting Pass tokens from them. They could still cause Pass tokens at the start of the following turn though.
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Re: Malifaux (3rd ed) - First Games Review and Discussion

Post by Primarch » Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:57 am

More games played, more lessons learnt.

First off, a big apology to The Underdweller. I made multiple mistakes in our game, you are more than entitled to claim the victory, or at the very least demand a rematch.

1. I totally forgot that if my model makes your model move a corrupted idol, MY model takes the damage. It's not just with the Obey ability, it's every 'control' ability.
2. I had your models drop a couple of scheme markers, but even then I couldn't drop two markers within 4" of each other.
3. Multiple auras with the same name don't overlap, they merge. At times my two Field Reporters were both pinging you for damage/discards, when only one of them should have been.
4. If you have a focus token and a distracted token, they immediately cancel each other out. You can't choose to hold on to the focus token.
5. Focus maxes out at +2, at one stage my Master had +3.

Back to rules school for me I think. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Malifaux (3rd ed) - First Games Review and Discussion

Post by The Underdweller » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:36 pm

I wouldn't worry about it too much. I also thought Focus went up to 3, and didn't think to question the markers being within 4" of each other. Like you said on the day, those reporters have a lot of effects to manage; it's kind of overwhelming.

Also, despite Nicodem having relatively few special rules, I pretty much consistently forgot (edit: until reminded by you) to add his +flip for nearby Undead's Melee and DEF attacks, and often forgot to pass attacks off to nearby Zombies, as well as the - to + thing for the Belle, so I can't really fault other people for missing a few things.

That being said, I am not quite as scared of your News crew as I was before. Still pretty scared, mind you, just a little less so.

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