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Re: The Thread Where Dave Puts Pictures of His Epic Stuff

Post by The Other Dave » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:43 am

As is my wont, I've been fiddling with army lists a bit in preparation for some Epic gaming this month, and thought I'd take some pictures of the armies I can put together with my collection.

All of these are 4000-point forces. The "tournament" list is 3000 points, which is IME pretty analogous to 1500 points in 40K - enough for a fun, balanced, interesting battle, but often not enough to throw in all the toys you have at your disposal.

To start, then, the forces of the Imperium!

First off is Space Marines of the Blood Angels chapter:
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Being Marines, it's a relatively small force, and while Marines do have some powerful rules to mitigate this (in addition to being solid all-around troops, with good armor, shooting and assault values, they're very hard to suppress) they need a bit of finesse to use well - in particular, coordinating attacks with their ground troops, assault troops in the thunderhawk, drop troops and an orbital bombardment from the strike cruiser. If Marines come at you piecemeal, they're not too hard to take care of, but they're a real bear in a coordinated assault.

Next, in contrast, is the mechanized infantry of the Steel Legion:
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Lots of mans, as you can see, supported by lots of tanks, plenty of artillery and even a couple of Marauder bombers, which pack a punch. Individually, they're pretty poo, but it's hard to argue with the 15-odd dice of shooting one of those infantry companies can put out, and once they get dug in it takes a lot of shooting to break such large infantry formations.

A bit smaller is the Armored Regiment:
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...which swaps out a fair chunk of infantry for more tanks and more artillery. A full company of basilisks plus two platoons of manticores puts out some fairly insane barrages (as Mike will testify from the game where he faced them), but the manticores especially will rapidly wilt in the face any shooting whatsoever. Air strikes are a real danger.

Next, Titan Legions:
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Yep, 4000 points for 12 models plus air support. It's a bit of a tricky army, as war engines in general sacrifice firepower for sheer survivability - a 900-point Warlord can't put out as much shooting as 900 points worth of infantry formations, but it's protected by 6 banks of void shields, heavy armor and impressive damage capacity. Still, titans aren't invulnerable and will need some coordination to survive. Even a Warlord won't last long against a concentrated effort to take it down.

Finally for the Imperium is the Adeptus Mechanicus Planetary Defense Force:
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A couple formations of the heavily-bionicized Hypastist infantry, backed up by forge knights, tanks and artillery, a Warlord and the ICBM-toting Ordinatus Golgotha.

Next post, after I get pictures taken: Foul xenos, Orks and Eldar.

(For bigger versions and more pictures feel free to take a peek at my photobucket.)
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Re: The Thread Where Dave Puts Pictures of His Epic Stuff

Post by me_in_japan » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:32 am

*applauds*

oooh, very lovely. That right there is why Epic is cool. Huge respec' to you for getting them all painted.
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Post by The Other Dave » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:45 am

Thankee! Mind, I've been collecting and painting these fellas since probably... 1988? :lol:

Right, xenos!

First off, in case anyone was laboring under the mistaken impression that the Steel Legion force was large or something, here are Orks:
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And this is a fairly heavily mechanized force, too - if I put those 2 big warbands on foot, I could easily fit in twice as many boyz. Orks in epic are interesting, and showcase how the game can inject a lot of character into an army with a minimum of rules (something I happen to like in game design). They're disorganized and prone to squabbling, and tend not to do what you want - unless you want them to rush headlong towards the enemy, engaging in hand-to-hand if they can, in which case they're very reliable indeed. They have fairly low morale - unless there are a whole lot of them, in which case they're nearly impossible to break.

Here are the Eldar, of the Iyanden craftworld:
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(I'm using the Swordwind army list, though, because wraithguard are hard to come by.) Like Eldar in, well, any game they appear in, Epic Eldar are speedy, lightly-armored, heavily-armed, highly-specialized, and ignore or break a fair number of the rules of the game. :lol: The wraithgate thing, by the way, isn't just a piece of terrain - they can actually use it to teleport units in from off-board. Alas, I have few enough units that can use wraithgates in this army (only infantry, light vehicles, or walkers can fit through) there wasn't much point to take the wraithgate-equipped superheavy. In a bigger army with more aspect warriors (and not enough wave serpents) I'd include one or two.
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Post by Admiral-Badruck » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:58 am

wow that is a lot of cool stuff...
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Post by The Other Dave » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:40 am

Why, if it isn't a Gargant Bigmob!
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You have to love a fan community that takes pride in rigorously playtesting fanmade variant army lists. It's not as if there's much choice, of course, since GW has dropped the game for all intents and purposes, and the community is steadily dwindling as people move on to new things. Ach, well. The Gargant Bigmob isn't quite as scary as it looks - it has 3 main weaknesses. Everything is slow, lone warmachines have trouble taking full advantage of the ork morale rules, and it has no supreme commander option (which gives activation test re-rolls), so it's more locked-in than usual to a headlong rush - meaning all those big gunz are usually going to be pretty inaccurate. Still, taking on that many gargants would be a scary proposition.
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Re: The Thread Where Dave Puts Pictures of His Epic Stuff

Post by Konrad » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:33 am

What edition is Epic on? I remember playing Adeptus Titanticus and the 1st ed Epic. Man, I knew you had some Epic stuff, but not that you had a huuuuge pile of it! One of these days.
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Post by The Other Dave » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:19 pm

Konrad wrote:What edition is Epic on? I remember playing Adeptus Titanticus and the 1st ed Epic. Man, I knew you had some Epic stuff, but not that you had a huuuuge pile of it! One of these days.
Hmm, I guess it's at the 4th edition:

Adeptus Mechanicus / Space Marine in 1988-1989

A revised Space Marine in the early 90s, maybe? Followed by Titan Legions in 1994

Epic: 40,000 in 1997

and Epic Armageddon in 2004

I don't imagine we'll get another edition, what with Specialist Games not fitting into GW's business model any more. :cry: But the rules are there, and fans keep creating and playtesting rules refinements and army lists (for both 2nd and 4th edition), and there are lots of manufacturers of sci-fi 6mm minis, not to mention eBay.
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Re: The Thread Where Dave Puts Pictures of His Epic Stuff

Post by Primarch » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:22 pm

The Other Dave wrote:
Konrad wrote:What edition is Epic on? I remember playing Adeptus Titanticus and the 1st ed Epic. Man, I knew you had some Epic stuff, but not that you had a huuuuge pile of it! One of these days.
Hmm, I guess it's at the 4th edition:

Adeptus Mechanicus / Space Marine in 1988-1989

A revised Space Marine in the early 90s, maybe? Followed by Titan Legions in 1994

Epic: 40,000 in 1997

and Epic Armageddon in 2004

I don't imagine we'll get another edition, what with Specialist Games not fitting into GW's business model any more. :cry: But the rules are there, and fans keep creating and playtesting rules refinements and army lists (for both 2nd and 4th edition), and there are lots of manufacturers of sci-fi 6mm minis, not to mention eBay.
2nd Edition is the best edition in my book, but regardless, its an ace game. There are just too many games and not enough time/money to do them all justice.
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Re: The Thread Where Dave Puts Pictures of His Epic Stuff

Post by me_in_japan » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:58 pm

2nd Edition is the best edition in my book, but regardless, its an ace game. There are just too many games and not enough time/money to do them all justice.
^ that.

I had a whole passel of Eldar at one point for Epic. AGP has em now (and iirc money or something changed hands, so I wont be getting them back, either.) They were all painted and everything! It was the old square bases, mind you. None of this long rectangular nonsense the kids area using these days...

Oh, the fun that could be had with eldar titans and their heat lances. You used to have to run right up and stick it up the opposing titan's nose, but if you did, you were almost guaranteed a kill. We used to call it the bogey-picker :D

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Post by The Other Dave » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:04 pm

me_in_japan wrote:I had a whole passel of Eldar at one point for Epic. AGP has em now (and iirc money or something changed hands, so I wont be getting them back, either.) They were all painted and everything! It was the old square bases, mind you. None of this long rectangular nonsense the kids are using these days...
Not a month goes by I don't find myself wistfully regretting selling off my Epic Tyranids. Ah, the things we do when we need money.

Well, anyone in the greater Nagoya area who wants a game any time, let me know! As you can see, I have models enough to share (and then some, heh), and I've got plenty of terrain and what not as well. I'll probably insist we use the 4th edition rules (on account of I have them, know them well, and like them), though. :oops:

I occasionally toy with the idea of renting a room somewhere for a day and having an Epic-stravaganza (or some similar stupid name)...
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