Apoc 2, Marines and Nids - Rumours

[Konrad]

Hnnf? Wassat? Oh. More marines. Wake me up again when something interesting comes along. HnyumfnymfzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.......

*edit* actually, on second look the lord executioner made me smile a bit. It's so ridiculously over-blinged 41st millennium it just about qualifies as a parody of itself.

2nd edit: and why in the name of all that's holy do two of those models have huge great vox casters? They're space marines for the love of god! The whole bejeezin' army wears helmets with inbuilt microphones and speakers! Is the vox caster there so they can be heard over the noise of the baneblade's cannon? Cos if it is, I reckon there'd be a very large number of deaf Masters of the Shouty Voice out there, ruptured eardrums being the barrier to effective hearing that they are...

You are taking this to seriously MIJ. It's 40K. It's a little silly by virtue of being....you know fantasy? The idea that the fate of worlds hangs on the actions of a handful of overdressed bald guys with guns is just silly fun in the first place. (Though a significant minority of my fellow countrymen might disagree with me.) We all know that the fate of worlds is merely a reflection of interest rates and commodity trade prices. Which is boring! I say skulls, parchment and more skulls. You want sleek and clean and vaugely rational, play Infinity.
But yeah, nothing original in moremarineland. Nothing you could not cobble together yourself out of bitz in 2 or 3 afternoons. Maybe I'll make a "Master of Shouty Voice". for fun.

[Spevna]

I'm not bothered by the absurdity of it, I'm bothered by the monotony of it.

Just more of the same.

[me_in_japan]

Gomen - my previous post got a bit carrier away with itself I'm actually coming around to the executioner, just cos its so out there it's almost RT-like in its absurdity.

I still maintain the vox casters looks stupid, though.

[Primarch]

CAPTAIN SHOUTY FACE: "How can my men hear me with those stupid helmets on? I know, I'll get a really big loud speaker!"

MARNEUS CALGAR: "Captain Reads-a-lot, you really should try Army Builder, you can view all your lists on your IPadium."

[Primarch]

New terrain. (Yes, it's all Imperial, go figure).



And $ prices, first is Canadian and second is US.

WARHAMMER 40000: APOCALYPSE (ENGLISH) Other Book 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $90.00 $74.25
IMPERIAL TARGETING TEMPLATES Hobby Product 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $30.00 $25.00
KHORNE LORD OF SKULLS Plastic Box 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $190.00 $160.00
IMPERIAL GUARD BANEBLADE Plastic Box 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $170.00 $140.00
NECRON TESSERACT VAULT Plastic Box 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $190.00 $160.00
WALL OF MARTYRS: VENGEANCE WEAPON BATTERY Plastic Box 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $60.00 $50.00
WALL OF MARTYRS: FIRESTORM REDOUBT Plastic Box 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $80.00 $65.00
WALL OF MARTYRS: AQUILA STRONGPOINT Plastic Box 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD $140.00 $115.00
SPACE MARINE CPTN: MASTER OF THE MARCHES Finecast Clam 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD Splash $30.00 $22.25
SPACE MARINE CAPTAIN:MASTER OF THE RITES Finecast Clam 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD Splash $30.00 $22.25
SPACE MARINE CAPTAIN: MASTER OF RELICS Finecast Clam 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD Splash $30.00 $22.25
SPACE MARINE CAPTAIN: LORD EXECUTIONER Finecast Clam 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD Splash $30.00 $22.25
APOCALYPSE STRATEGIC ASSET CARDS (ENG) Hobby Product 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD Limited $16.00 $15.00
BOMBARDMENT DICE CUBE Hobby Product 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD Limited $36.00 $30.00
VORTEX GRENADE TEMPLATE Hobby Product 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 RTD Limited $16.00 $15.00
WH40K: APOCALYPSE - COLLECTORS EDITION Other Book 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 D Limited $300.00 $250.00
WH40K: APOCALYPSE - GAMER'S EDITION 29-Jun-13 13-Jul-13 D Limited $300.00 $250.00

I wonder what is in the Apocalypse box for $250?

[me_in_japan]

A book. A set of templates. Some kind of ltd ed something. Not enough to justify the price tag, that's a given.

I mean this next opinion seriously (not just net waffle). I feel releases like this almost function as anti-advertising. I feel like I'm being pushed away from a game I actually quite enjoy. Does anybody else get this, increasingly, from GW stuff? I haven't gotten excited about their stuff since maybe the chaos sculpts in dark vengeance, and before that it was the dark eldar, way back. I'm happy to concede I'm a complete eldar fanboi, but when I consider the eldar releases its a series of "meh" punctuated by a couple of "hmm, pretty nice" for Illic and the wraith guard (which are hardly a huge departure from the established wraith guard sculpts). The new eldar releases should have had me bouncing up and down like a teenie at a bieber concert, but....nuffink. All the other stuff this year has left me equally cold.

So, a question: are GW capable of producing a release that actually excites you anymore?

[Spevna]

So, a question: are GW capable of producing a release that actually excites you anymore?

Hmmm. The last things I saw from GW that actually impressed me were;

some of the Necron stuff.
some of the Dark Eldar stuff.
the Ork Battlewagon kit.

[Primarch]

I quite liked the new Dark Angel gubbins, but mainly because I am a marine Fanboy. I do like them with a bit of bite to them though.

E.g.
Compare this:

With this:


Honestly, I am more interested in what Forge World does than in anything GW puts out anymore.

[Eigen]

Wow, I'm pretty shocked that the new masters are now more than twice the price (combined) as the metal Masters that came out with the first apocalypse.

I really have to agree with some of the negative Nancy's here...those prices can only be described as extremely prohibitive to me! I really don't like the price points they put up. I mean...it's crazy to think that the rulebook and a few plastic LE items will be 75% the cost of a PS4, or enough to feed me for a month.

[me_in_japan]

Y'know what GW should do (but of course never will)?

License out a xenos faction. Put it out for tender. Come up with a design brief once every couple of years, and have other up-and-coming sculptors/ game development companies compete to win the contract. Thereafter said company gets to sculpt and produce all minis related to said faction for the next 2 years. (Paying a percentage to GW, of course)

How would this help GW? Well, ok, aside from massive kudos it wouldn't.

How would it help the gamer? New ideas, new sculpts, new style. Expansion of the 40k universe and background.

How would it help the small company? Maseeeeeve sales and exposure.

So, everyone's a winner. Except GW, who would hardly lose out. But meh, it's never gonna happen. I get that. No financial incentive. Just thinking out loud