Dropzone Commander

[The Other Dave]

Oh certainly. I completely agree, and I have no problem playing 30, or 50 points off. But I am having trouble spending 100 points or more. It seems a Starfighter or gunship would fit the bill in these situations.

Also 4 formations is fine, but I'll keep puttering about with the lists. Actually I came up with pretty much the same list you did. Just no way to just cut 10 points to bring under 1k.

Ps: the HQ can also take a support slot.

A squad of 4 Wolverines plus their dropships is like 100 points too, and would let you fire the Kodiak's orbital bombardment a lot more accurately, to boot... The Eagle's pretty scary at 110 points as well. Quite a few options once you get out of the starter box stuff, heh.

[job]

Yeah, I would like to run the wolverines. But unfortunately for now they be the hardest to run, either painting or proxying.

I was thinking of maybe just proxying a star fighter. What do you think?

[The Other Dave]

Yeah, I would like to run the wolverines. But unfortunately for now they be the hardest to run, either painting or proxying.

I was thinking of maybe just proxying a star fighter. What do you think?

Could work. I'd worry that a fast mover might dominate a bit at this points level when there's relatively little AA on the board, but that's probably a good lesson to learn in game!

[job]

Sure, that is true. Here are two more lists.

Lieutenant Apone
(HQ)
Kodiak ACV
+ Condor Dropship
Rapier AA x3
+ Condor Dropship

(Special)
Eagle Heavy Gunship

(Armor)
Sabre MBT x6
+ Condor Dropship x2

(Infantry)
UCM Legionnaire x6
+ Bear ATV x 2
+ Condor Dropship

978

OR

Lieutenant Apone
(HQ)
Kodiak ACV
+ Rapier x3

(Special)
Rapier AA x3
+ Condor Dropship

(Armor)
Sabre MBT x6
+ Condor Dropship x2

(Infantry)
UCM Legionnaire x6
+ Bear ATV x 2
+ Condor Dropship

972

Actually, I could give both lists a couple of missile pods to round off the points.

The first list, I kind of like, but I am not sure how good or unbalancing the gunship is. (I can stick my havoc launcher on the bottom.)

The second list just makes the command drive. After all, I guess it just has a giant laser beam of death without unlimited range. Of course the list doesn't have much mobility with 4 dropships.

[The Other Dave]

Hmm. For the second list, the Kodiak having to hoof it isn't so bad, as you say (although it would depend a lot on whether you have a command card deck too - you're only looking at a 9" or 12" range to play most of your cards), but the Rapiers without a dropship leaves them potentially next to useless. I don't think the Eagle in the first list would be particularly unbalancing - frankly scary amounts of firepower, good mobility and immunity to all but AA weapons, balanced by weak armor. It basically has the same issues as the Scourge command unit, which I'd happily take at 1000 points.

[job]

Let's use the list you wrote for me.

HQ: Kodiak + Squad Leader + Condor

Armor: Squad 1: 6 Sabres + 2 Condors, Squad 2: 3 Rapiers + Condor

Infantry: Squad 1: 3 Legionnaires + Bear, Squad 2: 3 Legionnaires + Bear, sharing a Condor

Special: 3 Rapiers + Condor

That's 1009 points, which again I'd be quite willing to fudge. The Armor battlegroup is 450 points, still less than the 50% allowed for a single battlegroup at the Skirmish level.

It is 1009, but I like how I can actually field most of my collection without any proxies. I could actually get the list under 1000 by just removing the Condor on the HQ, but if you have something in your army you could add to bring your list over 1k, it would be cool to deploy our collections near full and nearly complete.

[The Other Dave]

Let's use the list you wrote for me.

HQ: Kodiak + Squad Leader + Condor

Armor: Squad 1: 6 Sabres + 2 Condors, Squad 2: 3 Rapiers + Condor

Infantry: Squad 1: 3 Legionnaires + Bear, Squad 2: 3 Legionnaires + Bear, sharing a Condor

Special: 3 Rapiers + Condor

That's 1009 points, which again I'd be quite willing to fudge. The Armor battlegroup is 450 points, still less than the 50% allowed for a single battlegroup at the Skirmish level.

It is 1009, but I like how I can actually field most of my collection without any proxies. I could actually get the list under 1000 by just removing the Condor on the HQ, but if you have something in your army you could add to bring your list over 1k, it would be cool to deploy our collections near full and nearly complete.

Yeah, bumping up to 1009 is no problem for me - upgrading the miniguns on my troop transports to AT guns actually takes me exactly there.

I'd end up with:

PHR 1000P
-Skirmish: 1009/1000 points
--Standard Army
---PHR Standard Roster [1009/1000 pts]

----Hand of the Sphere [221 pts]
-----Command Squad: Zeus(War Advisor), Odin, Neptune [221 pts]

----Battle Pantheon [258 pts]
-----Battle Squad: 2x Ares, Neptune [129 pts]
-----Battle Squad: 2x Ares, Neptune [129 pts]

----Battle Pantheon [171 pts]
-----Battle Squad: 2x Phobos, Neptune [171 pts]

----Immortals [237 pts]
-----Immortals: 2x Immortals, Neptune, 2x Juno A1 [165 pts]
-----^ Sharing ^ Immortals: 2x Immortals [72 pts]

----Immortals [122 pts]
-----Immortals: 2x Immortals, Triton A1(+Stealth Missiles, +Miniguns) [122 pts]

...which it's kind of scary just how much you outnumber me, heh. The price of an elite army, I suppose.

[job]

Looks nice. I'll review the units to also try and get an idea how units work. I guess most everything in the PHR list is just step up higher in armor from the UCM equivalents, but I'll have the numbers on my side.

UCM: 1000 points
Skirmish: 1009/1000
Standard UCM Roster

Sgt. Apone (Squad Leader)
--Command Squad: Kodiak ACV, Condor Med. Dropship [174]

Battlegroup Carrington
--Armored Squad: 6x Sabre, 2x Condor [284]
--AA Support Squad: 3x Rapier, Condor [166]

Battlegroup Ripley
--AA Support Squad: 3x Rapier, Condor [166]

Battlegroup Hicks
--Infantry Squad 1: 3x UCM Legionnaire, Bear ATC, Condor [125]
--^sharing^ Infantry Squad 2: 3x UCM Legionnaire, Bear ATC [94]